Olivia Troye, a former Department of Homeland Security and counterterrorism adviser to former Vice President Mike Pence, said Friday there’s a reason she “went very public” about quitting her job in 2020 ― and suggested current investigations into the missing Secret Service text messages involve the identical person.
Troye appeared on CNN as a part of a panel alongside former CIA agent Phil Mudd and government ethics expert Norm Eisen when she made these claims. News anchor Jim Sciutto asked Troye why the missing messages, that are linked to the Jan. 6, 2021, revolt, weren’t actively preserved.
“It’s somewhat surprising,” said Troye. “I actually have worked technical migrations in the federal government, and I find it somewhat bit confusing that folks weren’t aware that these messages were going to vanish, especially with the quantity of planning that goes into these migrations. I can let you know that firsthand having done it.”
“I got here from DHS,” Troye told CNN. “Whenever you work on the senior levels within the Trump administration … you realize exactly where people’s loyalties lie. I do know [Ken] Cuccinelli and Chad Wolf and all these people and Cuffari thoroughly.” (Cuccinelli and Wolf were the acting leaders at DHS on the time.)
Cuffari notably waited multiple 12 months to report that messages were missing to the House Jan. 6 committee. Nonetheless, he first learned of the messages in May 2021 — seven months before alerting them, in line with CNN.
Troye, who famously quit the Trump administration in 2020 over its lacking COVID-19 pandemic response, then linked that have to the DHS inspector general’s office ― which was led by Cuffari on the time.
“There’s a reason that I went very public with my concerns in regards to the Trump administration, moderately than going through the standard whistleblower process, which might have led me through the inspector general’s office at DHS,” Troye said Friday on CNN.
“And I’ll just say that. So, there’s a level of trust there that you just understand.”
As for the missing messages, the texts were seemingly lost when the Secret Service switched devices and migrated to a latest internal data system.
A senior forensics analyst in Cuffari’s office had already prepared to gather among the relevant phones when one in all the deputies who “report back to Cuffari’s team” emailed investigators on Feb. 18 and instructed them not to maneuver forward, sources told The Washington Post.
“I’ve got to let you know, being a Trump admin person, many of the administration communicated on encrypted signal apps, apps like Signal,” said Troye. “So, numerous the times, these messages were likely disappearing. So … it’s somewhat bit suspect.”
The crucial texts could paint a clearer picture of the Trump administration’s potential involvement within the Jan. 6 revolt.
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Troye went on so as to add: “You possibly can either turn in your government phone ― was there an encrypted app on it? Was it on their personal phone? In any case, it seems these messages are gone either way.”
Mudd, a CNN counterterrorism analyst, called the handling of the situation “beyond incompetence.” Mudd joined the CIA in 1985 as an analyst specializing within the Middle East and South Asia during President Ronald Reagan’s administration.
“How can the inspector general go to Congress now and say which you could trust me to conduct ongoing investigations when there are these gaps of reporting to you? I believe the inspector general has to go,” Mudd said.
“What the heck was the chief information officer at DHS doing?” Mudd added. “In case you’re migrating data, the primary query you have got for somebody who grew up with a manual typewriter is, is that data backed up? Not only because you’re speculated to try this, but since the law says you have got to do this.”
Eisen, a CNN legal analyst, went even further in suggesting that the Justice Department is “undoubtedly” considering serious penalties for those potentially involved within the alleged negligence — or possible cover-up on behalf of the Trump administration.
“What number of coincidences are we going to have involving DHS and the Secret Service and these missing messages on probably the most crucial time frame that our nation has confronted in a long time?” Eisen asked.
“I mean, it just strains belief,” he added. “We don’t wish to prejudge, but [the] DOJ is undoubtedly taking a tough have a look at among the federal penalties that may include criminal penalties if we discover that this was not an accident, that it was not negligence, that was not coincidence after coincidence — but something intentional was occurring here.”