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Karl Stefanovic openly jokes concerning the Today show being behind Sunrise within the rankings

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Karl Stefanovic has laughed off the Today show being behind Sunrise within the rankings in a surprisingly candid interview together with his former rival Samantha Armytage.

Speaking on the previous Sunrise co-host’s podcast Something to Talk About, Karl didn’t shrink back from admitting his own breakfast show had at all times played second fiddle to Sam’s old breakfast TV show.

‘I feel I beat you [in the ratings] one week in 1998, in some regional markets. Like, once,’ joked the 47-year-old.

LOL: Karl Stefanovic has laughed off the Today show being behind Sunrise within the rankings in a surprisingly candid interview together with his former rival Samantha Armytage 

Sam – who was then co-host of Sunrise alongside David ‘Kochie’ Koch – revealed that when Karl asked her, ‘What am I meant to do? How am I going to get the over-55 male audience back?’

Laughing on the memory, Karl admitted, ‘Well, I still have not. what, that is Kochie’s domain, the over-55s. 

‘And he’s still killing it!’

The admission comes after Every day Mail Australia revealed Stefanovic and Allison Langdon are each locked into long-term contracts with the Nine Network and ‘nobody goes anywhere’. 

She's loving it! Sam (pictured) - who was then co-host of Sunrise, alongside David 'Kochie' Koch - revealed that once Karl asked her, 'What am I meant to do? How am I going to get the over-55 male audience back?'

She’s loving it! Sam (pictured) – who was then co-host of Sunrise, alongside David ‘Kochie’ Koch – revealed that when Karl asked her, ‘What am I meant to do? How am I going to get the over-55 male audience back?’

Still on top: David 'Kochie' Koch (pictured last year) has delivered big ratings for Channel Seven as co-host of Sunrise

Still on top: David ‘Kochie’ Koch (pictured last yr) has delivered big rankings for Channel Seven as co-host of Sunrise

Over the weekend, a senior Nine source said the pair would remain hosts of this system, which was beaten within the rankings by ABC News Breakfast for one week this month. 

Stefanovic and Langdon are each understood to now earn about $1.5million a yr. 

Langdon, who paired up with Stefanovic on Today in January 2020, signed a recent multi-year contract last yr and her co-host is contracted until well into 2023.

‘There isn’t any changes,’ the source told Every day Mail Australia of speculation anyone on this system can be replaced. ‘Nobody goes anywhere. It’s bulls**t.’

Today hosts Stefanovic and Allison Langdon are both locked into long-term contracts with the Nine Network. 'No one is going anywhere,' a senior Nine  source told Daily Mail Australia of speculation anyone on the program would be replaced. Stefanovic and Langdon are pictured

Today hosts Stefanovic and Allison Langdon are each locked into long-term contracts with the Nine Network. ‘Nobody goes anywhere,’ a senior Nine  source told Every day Mail Australia of speculation anyone on this system can be replaced. Stefanovic and Langdon are pictured

The source also denied suggestions entertainment reporter Brooke Boney may very well be made a ‘roving reporter’ and Nine’s Perth weather presenter Scherri-Lee Biggs would take over from Tim Davies in that role on Today. 

‘Ally signed last yr for a lot of years and Karl’s locked in, like everyone else,’ the source said. ‘They’ve their team.’ 

Stefanovic and Langdon were still perplexed by a claim in a newspaper report in late January they’d been told to ‘shape up or ship out’ this yr.

‘They’ve never been asked to shape up or ship out,’ the source said. ‘That was a bulls**t article months ago and it must have been squared away.’  

Stefanovic and Langdon appeared on The Kyle and Jackie O Show on Wednesday to say they weren’t anxious about Today dropping to 3rd place behind the ABC and the Seven Network’s Sunrise earlier this month.

The co-anchors said it was normal for breakfast television rankings to go up and down, and one bad week was no cause to panic.

Langdon, who paired up with Stefanovic on Today in January 2020, signed a new multi-year contract last year and her co-host is 'locked in long-term' with the network. They are pictured with Today entertainment report Brooke Boney

Langdon, who paired up with Stefanovic on Today in January 2020, signed a recent multi-year contract last yr and her co-host is ‘locked in long-term’ with the network. They’re pictured with Today entertainment report Brooke Boney

Today’s five-city metro average viewing audience for the week commencing May 2 was 176,000.  Sunrise, hosted by David Koch and Natalie Barr, pulled in 241,000 viewers followed by ABC News Breakfast with 195,000 viewers.

ABC News Breakfast co-host Michael Rowland, who presents this system alongside Lisa Millar, had crowed concerning the rare rankings win over Today. 

‘The result reflects our key point of difference to the opposite shows,’ he told TV Tonight. ‘We don’t have “News” in our title for nothing.

‘It is basically pleasing to see viewers coming to us for information and evaluation, particularly within the election campaign. And in fact they still get some laughs.’  

Stefanovic, who’s nominated for a Gold Logie, said it was not surprising to see the general public broadcaster surge to second place during an election campaign.

‘If the ABC is not having a great time in the course of the elections then they have serious problems,’ the 47-year-old told Kyle Sandilands and Jackie ‘O’ Henderson.  

ABC News Breakfast's Michael Rowland (above with co-host Lisa Millar) crowed about a rare ratings win over Today earlier this month during the election campain. 'The result reflects our key point of difference to the other shows,' Rowland said

ABC News Breakfast’s Michael Rowland (above with co-host Lisa Millar) crowed a couple of rare rankings win over Today earlier this month in the course of the election campain. ‘The result reflects our key point of difference to the opposite shows,’ Rowland said

‘We love what we’re doing and we’re committed to doing an important show for our viewers. There isn’t a doubt that what we’re doing now is best than it has been the previous few years.’

Langdon told the KIIS FM hosts: ‘The outcomes change every single day. We have won Brisbane the last couple days but last week we lost. It’s jumping throughout and the election coverage plays a task.’

The Nine source said the network would consider the rankings at the tip of the yr.

‘The numbers aren’t as heavy as when everyone was at home with the pandemic,’ the source said. ‘After the election we’ll probably begin to see things return to normal.’ 

Stefanovic used the KIIS FM interview to slam claims made last weekend that Langdon ‘threw a tantrum’ after being ignored to participate in Nine’s election night coverage.

A newspaper report alleged Langdon felt snubbed after Nine selected Melbourne newsreader Alicia Loxley to anchor its coverage along with her Sydney counterpart Peter Overton.

Today is in a ratings battle with the Seven Network's Sunrise. Left to right is the Sunrise team: Sam Mac, Edwina Bartholomew, Natalie Barr, David Koch and Mark Beretta

Today is in a rankings battle with the Seven Network’s Sunrise. Left to right is the Sunrise team: Sam Mac, Edwina Bartholomew, Natalie Barr, David Koch and Mark Beretta

‘There isn’t any one here at Channel Nine that may’ve seen her have a “tantrum” since it didn’t occur,’ Stefanovic said.

‘I just find it appalling that a lady like Ally, who’s just fully committed to the job and works so hard and is an important mum, just gets taken down – for what? For attempting to do her job?’

Langdon, who turned 43 on Friday, also strongly denied there was any tantrum.

‘There was no outburst,’ she said. ‘I’m many things but I’m not a diva. 

‘The newsroom is running the election and that is totally nice. Alicia and Pete will do an important job.’

A television insider told Latest Idea on Monday that Stefanovic and Langdon were determined to make Today the top-rating breakfast news show.  

‘Karl is the form of bloke who would never bail out of a sinking ship,’ the insider said.

‘Being behind within the rankings makes him and Ally only wish to work harder to get back on top. It’s sink or swim for [them]. 

‘Knowing their tenacity and professionalism, they’ll pull out all of the stops to bring back their valued viewers who might need temporarily wandered over to other networks.’ 

Stefanovic hosted Today from 2005 to 2018 before being sacked and returning after a yr by which Deborah Knight and Georgie Gardner fronted the show.

His long-time co-host Lisa Wilkinson, who joined Stefanovic on this system in 2007, left in 2017 amid a pay dispute and went to work on The Project. 

Wilkinson has claimed Stefanovic earned significantly greater than her on Today but Nine insiders have said she was paid twice his salary of their early years. 

Today has gained ground on Sunrise since 2020, winning the rankings battle last September for the primary time in three years. 

Today hosts Karl and Allison have said they aren't worried about a ratings drop after sliding to third place behind ABC News Breakfast and Sunrise this month

Today hosts Karl and Allison have said they don’t seem to be anxious a couple of rankings drop after sliding to 3rd place behind ABC News Breakfast and Sunrise this month

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