Donald Trump is “terrified” that his former White House counsel is cooperating with the House select committee investigating last yr’s revolt, his niece Mary Trump said in an interview Saturday.
“To say that Donald is terrified is accurate — and likewise an understatement,” Mary Trump told Katie Phang on MSNBC. “I believe this could be the primary time in his entire life that even he can’t deny that the partitions may indeed be closing in.” (Watch the interview below.)
The “amount of evidence that we’ve seen coming out of those committee hearings is overwhelming,” she added. But what’s “much more troubling for him is the witnesses now coming forward are increasingly vital … they usually’re unimpeachable,” Trump said.
Attorney Pat Cipollone spent nearly eight hours on Friday being interviewed under oath by members of the Jan. 6 committee. Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.) said on CNN Friday that Cipollone didn’t “contradict” some other witnesses who’ve testified before the committee. She called the Cipollone interview “well value it,” and said “latest information” was revealed that the committee plans to soon share.
Cipollone figured most dramatically in testimony last week by Cassidy Hutchinson, a former aide to Trump’s White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows. She characterised Cipollone as nearly frantic in his efforts to dam Trump from joining his supporters on the Capitol, warning that if he did, “We’re going to get charged with every crime conceivable,” Hutchinson quoted the attorney as saying.
Hutchinson said she also heard Cipollone telling Meadows that the mob was “literally calling” for then-Vice President Mike Pence to “be f-ing hung.”
When Meadows replied that Trump believes “Mike deserves it,” Hutchinson testified, Cipollone replied: “That is f-ing crazy.”
Mary Trump believes “the motivating factor” behind any decision by her uncle to run for the presidency in 2024 could be an try to dodge prosecution for a lengthening list of potential criminal charges against him.
Up to now “Donald has used two methods” to flee accountability, she said. “He’s run out the clock, or he’s outspent his opponents. That shouldn’t be allowed here. On top of those two things to make use of as an excuse that he’s running for office again? I believe that [would] answer the query: ‘Is anybody above the law?’”
To not indict or prosecute her uncle “could be an insult to the rule of law,” she added.